Tuesday, May 01, 2007

clowning around

There are two kinds of people in this world...

I know that phrase is overused, but it’s the first thing that came to mind when I saw a recent photo of a pal in clown makeup. I immediately thought, There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who aren’t afraid of clowns… Lemme tell you somethin’. Friends don’t let friends become clowns.

My oldest son likes to drive me crazy by acting like a mime. That almost cured me from thinking that a clown was the worst thing a person could be. When he does that, I pretend to take a pistol out, and screw on a silencer. If DCFS tried to make a case against me, I would have a good defense: “I love my son. I really do, but you have to understand, there are two kinds of people in this world…”

31 comments:

L.L. Barkat said...

Did you put on your red nose for a disguise before you pulled out the silencer? Crucial step, I think.

spaghettipie said...

Ooh, not a fan of clowns, here. They creep me out. Sorry Bozo and Homey...

Llama Momma said...

You would get along great with my Twin A. He's always been leery of clowns. it goes way back to a "Kids Eat Free" Monday night at the Colonial, and a highly agressive clown.

Ted M. Gossard said...

Craver, Thanks for the lesson on clowns and mimes. I'll have to remember this!

Craver Vii said...

One of my pastors gets a severe case of the heebie-jeebies around clowns. It's a little comical for everybody who does not get affected as badly as he does.

We once had a block party here, and our town encourages residents by providing thinks like a climbing rock tower for these events. So what do they send to our craverhood? A clown! There was a balloon animal, magic making, wise cracking ccclown!!!

Oh wait! I just remembered something. I meant to tell you guys before. I took tomorrow off and the Craver family is driving down to the state capital to make friends with lawmakers on behalf of homeschoolers.

See ya Thursday. Feel free to hang out and talk amongst yourselves, but try not to make a mess.

"Craverhood." That's funny.

Pete Juvinall said...

I'll have to wave as you pass Pete-ville on your way south. :)

I thought I was the only one that pretend capped my boy and I think the only way to do a good hit is with a silencer.

But seriously, I have a friend that was deathly afraid of clowns and I understand but how could you not think this is cute :)?

Lifelong Learner said...

I have a friend who's TESTIMONY is how God turned him from performing as a mime at Disney to calling him to the mission field. Hmmm. What do you make of that?

Llama Momma said...

Did Craver say he was going to be away for the day? He, he. What should we do, kids?

Even So... said...

Clown around, of course...

jazzycat said...

Aren't you afraid by homeschooling your children, they will miss out on all that left-wing propanganda from central command?

Llama Momma said...

Now, now Jazzycat. Play nice!

Public school offers more than "left-wing" propaganda. But lets not go there. Not today.

Anyone have any good chicken recipes?

Halfmom said...

thanks for the kind words V - safely home from DC to my clown-fearing grownup daughter

Jen2 said...

who is this clown.....
:)

are there any little kids who AREN'T terrified of clowns?

I got nothin.
but fear.

Anonymous said...

Jazzy, are
you afraid that your child's convictions will be challenged at the public school?

Shammickite said...

I have to admit of a dislike of clowns too... not exactly a fear... but I don't have any use for them. And they're NOT FUNNY!

jazzycat said...

Anonymous,
All parents should be concerned with the manipulation and brain washing that their children are exposed to in school, in movies, in the newspaper, on television and everywhere else. The Bible calls on parents to be discerning and to be pro-active in the raising and training of their children.

I have enough information available to know that Christian children's convictions and world-view WILL be challenged in school. It is not a matter of being afraid or if happening. IT WILL HAPPEN.

For anyone to suggest that parents should give up their responsibility in teaching values and morals to their children and turn that power over to the state is pure folly.

Parents should very much teach a Christian world-view to their children and refute attempts by anyone to undermine this world-view. For parents to let the culture shape and mold their young children unchecked is the height of irresponsible parenting.

Surely, you would agree with these principles. My children are grown, but I was involved in raising my children with my values as best that I could.

Anonymous said...

I may be one of the people who are afraid of clowns. They are a little pedo-creepy. Maybe I'm just afraid of the non-circus clowns. They're the "crying on the inside" clowns.

ick.

Craver Vii said...

Pete, your kid is plenty cute without clown makeup. And he’s always saying the funniest things. BTW, we waved as we passed Bloomington/Normal—both ways.

Thanks to all of you for the comments today. We had a great trip.

Stacy, are you saying that somebody got saved from being a mime? I’m not surprised in the least.

Llama and Even So…, thanks for picking up on the subliminal invitation to hijack the blog for a day. I thought it was incredibly funny the last time that happened. But Llama, when things started to get really interesting, you moderated, and put a cork in it. I wonder where that discussion would have taken us.

Jazzycat, I would love to explore this more, but maybe we should clarify something first. I did not assume that you propose that everything that is not home schooling is “left wing,” but only some of it. Enough of it, anyway. Is that so? As for me, I have chosen to home educate my children because my wife and I are under the conviction that for a whole bunch of reasons, it is the best our family could do. I think it’s better than any public or private school, but I wouldn’t make a blanket statement saying that all public-schooled children succumb to anti-conservative brainwashing or that their parents are all doing evil in not home schooling.

Halfmom, my dear sister. I am partial to the letter V. I have always loved it as much as Zorro loves his Z. But I wouldn’t have expected “Craver” to be abbreviated that way unless it’s written differently. Like, “craVer.” Nah, call me “C,” if anything. I trust all is well with your daughter.

anonymous, I really wish anonymous comment weren’t so... anonymous. If we had some kind of identity for you, I would feel better about whether this voice is worth hearing or if it’s just pesky antagonism that should be deleted. That’s not a critique of your comment, just your anonymity. I don’t want any of my friends to get jabbed and left with an open wound here. So, are you friend or foe? Proper name or pseudonym, I need an identity, please.

J2, Ex-Shammy & Ven, I know! I know! Brrrrr!

Jazzycat, you said, “Parents should very much teach a Christian world-view to their children…” Do you mean Christian parents or all parents? And is there anyone here who does not agree with that? If not, how come?

Llama Momma said...

Jazzycat -- Of course kids will be challenged in school. As a Christian Mom, I think that's a good thing.

you write: "Parents should very much teach a Christian world-view to their children and refute attempts by anyone to undermine this world-view. For parents to let the culture shape and mold their young children unchecked is the height of irresponsible parenting."

Absolutely!! And one can send their children to public school and do this too! We are teaching our children a christian worldview AND sending them to public school.

I've got no bone to pick with people who choose to homeschool. But I am sick and tired of the jabs from fellow christians because I choose to send my kids to public school.

Sorry to hijack, Craver!

jazzycat said...

Craver,
My original comment was tongue-in-cheek meant to be taken lightly. That being said, I do believe there is a left-wing bias in the news media and entertainment media in our country as well as in our universities and public schools. However, You are right to assume that I do not believe everything that is not home schooling is left wing.

There are certainly some schools across America (public and private) that teach solid moral and ethical values and I would suppose that there are plenty of left-wingers home schooling their children.

I became a Christian late in life, but I had a basic Christian world-view in regards to work ethic, personal responsibility, moral absolutes, ethics, economic freedom, religious freedom, etc. While I regret to say that I did not teach my children Christianity and faith in Christ, I did teach them what I would call a basic Christian world-view in many areas.

There are many examples of schools teaching things I feel are untrue and in fact wrong and harmful. So to answer your question, I very much think parents should teach values, absolutes, and truth to their children. In doing this they would be teaching many things consistent with a Christian world-view.

It would be incomprehensible to me for a parent to tell a first grader to go out there and listen to your teachers and come to your own conclusions without consulting with me. There are plenty of “Ward Churchills” in the world pushing their agendas and they are not all teaching at universities.

jazzycat said...

Illama momma,
If my original comment was offensive, I apologize for that.

As a public school parent, I hope and am sure you probably are involved with their entire curriculum. I think Christian input in public schools is important and needed. There are many in my church that send their children to public schools and I wish them and Christians nothing but the best in this endeavor.

Llama Momma said...

Jazzy -- And I'm sorry to assume the worst! Obviously, I've got some baggage here. :-) I guess I missed the whole "tongue-in-cheek" tone of the original comment. My bad.

Anonymous said...

Although I disagree with most reasons for home schooling I am not a foe. I am a sister in Christ that will let go of the disputable matters, but feel there is room for discussion. I am not much of a commenter on blogs, but I do enjoy reading them on occasion and don't know the proper blog etiquette(or even if there is such a thing!!(:-)). Anyway, my decision to public school my children is often looked at in a negative light (in the Christian community). It is difficult being a public school mom in a world of home school moms. It is very divisive and exclusive. Meaning it excludes. I am sure there are other experiences out there, I am only speaking from my own. It has not been easy being a public school mom in the Christian community. I am getting a thicker skin and am confident that God will continue to grow me in this area of disputable matters.
Please don't think of me as a pesky antagonist because I choose to remain anonymous.

Craver Vii said...

Llama and Jazz, I love you both and I’m glad you’re getting along. We’ll talk more about home school stuff later.

Anonymous, I appreciate that you visited and commented. I would love to talk more, but I still have this thing about total anonymity, where we can’t even distinguish you and everybody else who is known only as “anonymous. I propose a compromise. I gather that you are female. How about I give you “Dorothy” as an alias, or even just “D?” Disclose only as much as you are comfortable with, but if you give us at least a token way to identify you, my personal requirements will be satisfied, and the stigma of “pesky antagonist” will be erased. I hope you are around when I bring up some of the issues you raised. Blessings, friend.
-Craver

L.L. Barkat said...

Gee, Craver. What kind of mysterious power do you wield that gets your comments section to go from Clowning, to Christian Philosophies on Schooling and Socialization? (maybe it is just the power of good humor? :)

Craver Vii said...

Isn't it fun, LL? To me, this is like a party where you have a whole bunch of people talking and the conversation is not monopolized by one person (me). Yup, just like a party, except for the food. The Ex-Shammickite was supposed to bring ice cream, but stopped at a ballgame instead. She gave out all our ice cream there! She'll probably give us some kind of excuse like, no one gave her the memo, or Canada is too far...

Lifelong Learner said...

you have someone on your side, anonymous-D. :) I'm someone who has taught in, and sent my children to all three: public, private and homeschool, for reasons other than dissatisfaction of each. I see the value in each one. And, being overseas now, I've been privvy to some great conferences on educating our children in different settings. Particularly regarding TCK's (third culture kids, or kids growing up in a culture different from their parents) but I believe many of the concepts apply to all children.

So it would be fun to learn from each other! And maybe we can ease you gently into the blogosphere. This is a good place to start. :)

spaghettipie said...

Wow - Love the conversation. My daughter is only 19 months old, and I'm surprised at how many people are already asking me what I'm going to do about her schooling. The best advice I ever heard was from a friend who has four children. She told me that they prayed over each child each year. As a result, they have done all three (home, private, public) - and sometimes something different with each child. At the end of the day, every child is different, and I think you need to tailor their education to their individual needs.
I do find it interesting (and have found it true in my own circles) that the Christian community seems to categorically elevate homeschooling and put down public school. I have several friends who have felt isolated and condemned based upon their education choices. One friend is even toying with a book idea called "It's Not a Sin to Send Your Child to Public School." Why is that?

*throws a little bit of confetti around the place because she was going to do it while Craver was gone and sees no reason not to even though he's returned*

spaghettipie said...

PS - (and off topic) I recently noticed that the title of your links to other blogs is "Occasionally I have an appetite for:" and I think it's kind of funny that my blog name actually fits..."Occasionally I have an appetite for spaghetti pie". :)

Craver Vii said...

Stacy, our oldest daughter went to Chicago Public Schools from Kindergarten to 12th grade. She turned out all right, even if she doesn’t sing the praises of home schooling like Mrs. Craver and me. If we knew then what we know now, we probably would have taught her at home, and I’ll bet she would see it differently if she had an inside perspective, (though not all kids do).

Spaghettipie, I wish you had saved the confetti, because this is my 97th post. Number 100 is just right around the corner. Child, that was pretty bold to make a mess even though I had already returned. (pointing) There’s the broom.

spaghettipie said...

C-don't you worry. I have more confetti where that came from...and why bother cleaning it up now when we're just going to mess things up again in a couple posts??
*mischievous grin*